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We will create a profile for [http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Hosted%20Apps|SourceForge.net Hosted Apps]
Related profile: ((Software_Project))
So any software project on SourceForge.net will have an out-of-the-box, pre-configured TikiWiki with default installations to include SourceForge.net specific things. For example:
*[http://alexandria.wiki.sourceforge.net/Project+Web%2C+Shell%2C+VHOST+and+Database+Services#logo|project logo]
*[http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sf.php?view=markup|SourceForge plugin]
*Including RSS feeds from the project (file releases, etc)
This will avoid this complex procedure:
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/SourceForge+Install
This will be a TikiWiki farm, which will be presumably be running with ((doc:MultiTiki)) or ((dev:TRIM)). Users will presumably not have SSH/FTP to their Tiki. Only web access.
Related tracker item:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2198232&group_id=1&atid=350001
!!- On 2009-05-19, marclaporte was inquiring on #sourceforge
[14:39] hinojosa: I had thought someone sent you something on this
[14:40] hinojosa: let me poke around behind the curtains here...
[14:40] hinojosa: a few minutes please.
[14:41] marclaporte: We just released 3.0 :-) and are ready to proceed
[14:42] burley-sf: what's the DB that tiki uses?
[14:43] burley-sf: and what's it written in -- php?
[14:43] marclaporte: php/mysql
[14:43] burley-sf: is there a module/method for supporting HTTP basic auth?
[14:44] marclaporte: yes
[14:44] burley-sf: and some method of auto-creating users upon authenticated login?
[14:44] marclaporte: not sure
[14:44] burley-sf: should be trivial to add to the auth foo though
[14:45] burley-sf: Sounds like it should be pretty painless for us -- but its gonna have to wait for a few other hosted app changes first
[14:45] burley-sf: we're in the middle of integrating hosted apps into the site proper so auth is handled uniformly
[14:45] burley-sf: once that's done I know we're discussing what HAs are next in line
[14:46] burley-sf: I can raise Tiki at that time as well
[14:50] marclaporte: Thanks.
[14:51] marclaporte: My goal is to make an out-of-the-box SourceForge profile (a TikiWiki specially configured for SourceForge) which is a slight adaption of the more generic Software Project profile -> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/SourceForge_Software_Project
[14:55] burley-sf: that would be really neat
[14:57] marclaporte: Is there anything for stats tracking? page hit counter in the Hosted Apps with does a bit like page hits on normal project pages?
[15:01] marclaporte: in which case, we would put this web bug in this profile. So page hits on Tiki Hosted App would be counted properly without overhead for project
[15:01] hinojosa: have you tried piwik?
[15:01] marclaporte: a long time ago, when it had different name
[15:01] hinojosa: we have that as a hosted app
[15:01] hinojosa: from the implementation we have
[15:01] hinojosa: you can use this for site projects
[15:01] hinojosa: you should check it out
[15:02] marclaporte: I will :-)
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[15:04] burley-sf: Once the integration bit is done stats collection will be made simpler/better for hosted apps
[15:08] marclaporte: are we looking at weeks away or months away?
[15:18] burley-sf: I can't provide any sort of timeline and the only person who can is out of the office
[15:18] burley-sf: I suggest you ping moorman
[15:19] marclaporte: auto-creating users upon HTTP basic auth? (anything else I should prepare?) Do you have any docs/code/etc about a typical customization of a php/mysql app to become suitable for HA? (I'll start planning this aspect)
[15:38] burley-sf: marclaporte: We haven't written anything up for the community yet -- I was hoping to write something up to do a presentation about it at OSCON -- but they rejected it
[15:59] marclaporte: burley-sf: : sorry to hear that
Later that day, marclaporte & moorman had an IRC chat. SourceForge is working on improving the framework for hosted apps integration. When this is ready, SourceForge will evaluate other apps, including Tiki. No specific time-frame so we just wait.
__More on 2009-07-29__
[14:58] hinojosa: all: Wikispaces deprecation is set for tomorrow at 8 AM Pacific.
[14:58] hinojosa: Site Status ( https://sourceforge.net/sitestatus )
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[15:43] marclaporte: hinojosa: hi!
[15:44] hinojosa: marclaporte: Hello
[15:44] marclaporte: how are you?
[15:44] hinojosa: I'm well - thank you
[15:44] hinojosa: and yourself?
[15:45] marclaporte: excellent. I am in Europe for a 10-day Tiki coding sprint (we call them TikiFest) http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking
[15:45] hinojosa: nice
[15:45] hinojosa: looks like you are in France?
[15:45] marclaporte: yes, off to Barcelona tomorrow
[15:45] hinojosa: excellent
[15:46] hinojosa: I hope the sprint goes well
[15:46] marclaporte: tks
[15:46] marclaporte: I am a little surprised with WikiSpace change.
[15:46] hinojosa: really?
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[15:46] hinojosa: we posted this up on site status some time back
[15:47] marclaporte: oh, not that way surprised
[15:47] marclaporte: I must have read and forgot. But it is because all hosted app stuff is going to be more & more open source?
[15:47] marclaporte: AFAIK, WikiSpaces is not OpenSource
[15:48] hinojosa: we are moving towards using more facilites, as you note, in our hosted apps
[15:48] hinojosa: at this time, we're deprecating Wikispaces for a number of reasons
[15:48] hinojosa: we are offering folks migration paths to the existing hosted apps
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[15:49] hinojosa: and if folks want and like Wikispaces
[15:49] hinojosa: they can have that imported to Wikispaces as well
[15:49] danielf: hi is someone can help me for intallins ajaxchat
[15:49] marclaporte: yes, I read. Migrating wiki stuff is much more tricky that other types of apps. You guys must have been busy :-)
[15:50] hinojosa: just a little...
[15:50] hinojosa: danielf: Hi
[15:50] danielf: hi hunojosa can you help me
[15:50] hinojosa: danielf: are you looking to install that on your project web space?
[15:51] danielf: yes i installed it but i have a problem i cannot login it always the same page coming back
[15:51] hinojosa: have you read our Site Documentation, http://p.sf.net/sourceforge/index for project web, https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20web ?
[15:51] hinojosa: the key with such installations is that our web servers are read-only
[15:52] danielf: not yet i go right now
[15:52] hinojosa: hence, you need to make sure that files that need to be written are in the persistent directory
[15:52] hinojosa: pay particular attention to that segment of the docs for this effort
[15:52] hinojosa: I suspect this will help clear this up
[15:53] danielf: ok but what i dont understant is taht i have do same thing on another sire and it work
[15:53] marclaporte: hinojosa: so we are super-duper ready to have Tiki available as a hosted app. We'll even make a SourceForge.net profile (same codebase as usual but pre-configured to SourceForge-type projects) http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/SourceForge_Software_Project
[15:54] hinojosa: ah-ha!
[15:54] hinojosa: we've been waiting for that , right marc?
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[15:55] danielf: sorry i chashed i am back
[15:56] hinojosa: danielf: I'm not clear on your comment about doing this on another site
[15:56] marclaporte: well, I think there were some structural improvements on SF framework
[15:56] burley-sf: marclaporte: I don't remember but did jacob contact you relatively recently or am I thinking of someone else?
[15:57] danielf: ok i have two site and on each i have smf
[15:57] burley-sf: if not, all you are really waiting for at this point is for us to document the porting process essentially
[15:57] danielf: on first i install ajaxchat and every this is good
[15:57] danielf: on the second site i have done smae thing but in can going in the chat room
[15:57] danielf: i always come back on login page
[15:58] elmuerte: is it just me or is the 'Feature Settings' (under project admin) page really slow?
[15:58] marclaporte: We spoke in May, and I don't recall recent contact from Jacob.
[15:59] burley-sf: k -- I think he was going to, but he's not around to ask
[15:59] burley-sf: I know we've discussed it
[16:00] burley-sf: I suspect he'll be back in the office soon (today) -- if so I'll talk to him for 5 and get back to you
[16:02] marclaporte: super. Well, it's a good time now because our 3.x version is nice & stable now. And if the doc is out, we could do at the TikiFest during next 10 days
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[16:05] burley-sf: well, I don't see a doc getting out
[16:06] burley-sf: but I could probably write you some brief docs
[16:06] burley-sf: that would allow you to get started
[16:06] burley-sf: I just need permission to sideline other work to do it first
[16:09] marclaporte: So this is the "document the porting process" part? So I guess modifying a bit of code for auth and to limit/specify directories which need write perms?
[16:10] marclaporte: Maybe if we have general guidelines and a space to dev/experiment, we can move forward and ask questions/ help document as we go...
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